ATS Turbo 6mt to replace my Focus ST

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06/04/2015 at 23:48 • Filed to: None

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Yay or nay ?

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I test drove an automatic turbo ats and an automatic A3 Quattro.

So far the Audi is leading but I have an appointment to drive the manual Caddy.

Why do I want to get rid of the ST ?

No good reason, it’s a good car but it’s been two years and I want something new.

I’m not losing any money in the trade-in, except normal depreciation (7.5k over 2 years)

I also tested the Audi a3 quattro with the teknik pack

Nice, too

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DISCUSSION (50)


Kinja'd!!! CB > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 00:00

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Go for it. Although I’ve heard some Oppoauts (I.E. Ben Rolland) complaining about rear legroom.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > CB
06/05/2015 at 00:06

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I have a focus right now, legroom is not a concern


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > CB
06/05/2015 at 00:06

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I hear he hates the ATS.


Kinja'd!!! CB > TheHondaBro
06/05/2015 at 00:07

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I hadn’t gathered from the vitriol he spouts about it.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > TheHondaBro
06/05/2015 at 00:07

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Why ?


Kinja'd!!! CRider > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 00:08

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Wait a few more months and get the car the ATS was always meant to be.


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 00:10

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It’s an joke. (He really, really, really, really, fanatically loves everything Cadillac)


Kinja'd!!! sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 00:33

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Whichever you end up liking more/getting the better deal on.


Kinja'd!!! Axial > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 00:44

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YAY ABSOLUTELY.

This isn’t even a comparison, man. What the ATS may lose in spriteliness to the ST, it will make up for in comfort and livability in spades .


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > CRider
06/05/2015 at 00:46

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Seriously. My barber plans to buy one as soon as they come out...


Kinja'd!!! RallyWrench > CB
06/05/2015 at 00:57

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Well, I mean, he’s like 7’6” right?


Kinja'd!!! CRider > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
06/05/2015 at 01:06

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You must tip pretty well.


Kinja'd!!! Your boy, BJR > TheHondaBro
06/05/2015 at 01:17

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It's not my first choice in the lineup (quite cramped for my tastes) but it's still miles better than the competition thanks to my extreme bias.


Kinja'd!!! Your boy, BJR > RallyWrench
06/05/2015 at 01:18

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Hey! I’m only 7’ 5”, thank you very much. Quit tall shaming me!


Kinja'd!!! Your boy, BJR > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 01:20

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Honestly my biggest holdup is interior room. My car doubles as my office, and I'm quite a big guy, so I like a big airy cabin. For someone with normal proportions, it’s fine. My brother has a ‘14 2.5 AT, and even in the base form, it’s still quite sprightly.


Kinja'd!!! Brian Silvestro > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:23

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Why not get an E30 M3?


Kinja'd!!! Alex B > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:26

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I thought you had an X1 to replace the ST?


Kinja'd!!! samssun > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:26

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At least drive an S3 manual to make it a fair comparison...a 220hp auto vs. a 275/295 manual?


Kinja'd!!! Captain of the Enterprise > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:27

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I vote yay


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:29

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Yay.


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:41

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Yay!


Kinja'd!!! Schaefft > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:45

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Get the manual ATS. Cadillac deserves it!


Kinja'd!!! jkm7680 > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 07:51

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No Cadillac, yes A3.


Kinja'd!!! Snooder87 > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 08:52

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ATS. Just got a 2.0T coupe and loving every second of driving it.

You may want to test out the infotainment though. The voice commands in the ATS aren’t the best for me.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Alex B
06/05/2015 at 08:57

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The new one is coming in a few months, don't want to be stuck with a new OG car


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Brian Silvestro
06/05/2015 at 08:58

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Or a Crown Vic..


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Snooder87
06/05/2015 at 08:59

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Well, I'm actually happy with Sync so I guess my tolerance level is pretty high


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 09:00

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Why are you cross-shopping the A3 with the ATS? I was under the impression that the ATS is a 3-Series and A4 competitor. I think once you climb into the backs of both you’ll pick the ATS.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > samssun
06/05/2015 at 09:01

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it’s part of the plan

I have other cars to try as well, including the 228 but it's a coupe and I have two kids. That may potentially be a poor idea.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Axial
06/05/2015 at 09:01

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That's what I think, but the it's a compact sedan and we already have an F30, feels a bit like the same car.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > CRider
06/05/2015 at 09:02

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Nah thanks, I rarely go above 60KPH on my daily commute, waste of fuel.


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Your boy, BJR
06/05/2015 at 09:04

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I see, thanks, but I’m 5’8 and find my Focus quite roomy, I even like the Recaros !


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Party-vi
06/05/2015 at 09:05

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Yes, in theory, but pricewise (including incentives) the ATS is more in line with the A3, at least here in Canada


Kinja'd!!! Tom McParland > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 09:06

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Good luck finding a 6MT ATS...they are out there but super rare...and if you want Mag-Ride forget it. Also...for the same price take a CPO 3 series for a spin. The ATS is good...but not quite 3 series good.


Kinja'd!!! Tom McParland > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 09:07

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Oh you have little ones...yeah definitely try a CPO 3. Back seat room is much better than the ATS/A3


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Tom McParland
06/05/2015 at 09:11

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Yeah, but we already have an F30 328, that would be redundant.


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 09:12

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But the A3 is a cheap version of an expensive Golf. Why would anyone choose a smaller less well equipped car for the same price?


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Tom McParland
06/05/2015 at 09:13

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The inventory says there’s 25 of them here in the Montreal area


Kinja'd!!! Kate's Dirty Sister > Party-vi
06/05/2015 at 09:38

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It was nice, maybe it was the trim level but it felt more upscale than the ATS


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 09:43

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Well, Audi does know how to put together interiors so that makes sense. The only thing I don’t like about the ATS (having never been in one) is the single exit exhaust for the base engine. It looks silly where it exits the rear bumper.


Kinja'd!!! Bobbyzoom > samssun
06/05/2015 at 09:49

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There is no S3 manual. All auto-magic


Kinja'd!!! BrtStlnd > Snooder87
06/05/2015 at 09:50

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Spoiler alert: voice commands never work in any car.


Kinja'd!!! BrtStlnd > Party-vi
06/05/2015 at 09:51

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I believe KDS has already owned a recent Golf.


Kinja'd!!! Brian Silvestro > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 12:35

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Or an air cooled 911?

Many better choices here than an ATS...


Kinja'd!!! samssun > Bobbyzoom
06/05/2015 at 15:57

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Impossibru. I must've seen a dozen articles celebrating that they'd finally brought it here, as I watched for news of the next RS3.


Kinja'd!!! Bobbyzoom > samssun
06/05/2015 at 16:11

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Show me a manual A3/S3 (MQB platform) and I will PayPal you $5 :)


Kinja'd!!! CRider > Tom McParland
06/05/2015 at 16:26

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You’d probably like the ATS more if you could do a BMW badge swap. I know that’s important to a lot of people.


Kinja'd!!! CRider > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/05/2015 at 16:29

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Kinja'd!!! samssun > Bobbyzoom
06/05/2015 at 19:49

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I see lots of “coulds” and “mights” but not the actual thing :-(


Kinja'd!!! Steve in Manhattan > Kate's Dirty Sister
06/13/2015 at 14:51

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I like the idea of an American car with a 6MT. Also, have you thought most recent 5 series? Not American, but I’ll bet pieces of it are ....